fewer than five days to go until whi we go over the proverbial fiscal cliff and when dividend taxes go up it makes an already bad situation worse. >> right now the tax is 15%. by next tuesday, folks, wouts a deal from congress, they are going to more than double to 39.6%. now he wrote this opinion piece in "forbes" highlighting an unfair tax code that rewards debt and penalizes those dividend payments. joining us now here is the author of that, the ceo of otc markets group. you've got a real bone to pick over this. plain your special. thank you amanda and bill. have 16 under daying securities in the otc marketplaces. these companies attract dividend investors. keep them honest and great source of revenue. hour, dividend taxes are not taxed at 15% but are double taxed. companies have to pay taxes on their profits before distributing them as dividends. dividends are double taxed and will almost be triple taxed unless we do something in washington. all those million of dividend investors should be really angry. bad for them but it's bad for the economy. >> realistically though could we re